Article seems pretty flawed. Relevance is a vague metric, and the author relies pretty heavily on data related to government site visitation, which seems subject to bias toward certain types of users.

Market share is likely still incredibly low, but Firefox’s relevance should be spiking right now due to Google’s shenanigans with Chromium. The fact that like 90% of revenue for its for-profit wing is from Google is still troubling.

Any alternative views out there?

  • Papamousse
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    11 year ago

    I only use FF in Linux, I tried on Android but it’s somewhat bad 😔

  • bbbhltz
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    101 year ago

    ah zdnet, a waste of CO2 if there ever was

  • @markkdark@lemmy.ml
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    41 year ago

    Before the new year, I donated 25€ for Firefox, my long-time companion to #degoogle Grapheneos and Linux. Although Google is introducing DRM, I don’t think anything is so important in this life that I have to use Chrome or IE, I will adapt to the situation and instead of worrying about DRM (of course, for the public Internet, this seems like a total violation of users’ rights, for safety 🤣🤣🤣, really?) I will try to be more social, but not in the sense of social networks, but hanging out with friends or listening to music or running or a good book… I definitely don’t want this big corporation near me, which we are more and more they control… (google,ms,apple,amazon…) Firefox probably missed by not insisting on FirefoxOS (phones), but it has a great agenda - privacy and simplicity. I look forward to many years of using FF!!

  • Pete Hahnloser
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    181 year ago

    For an article that tries to push a groupthink narrative to work, the people using the “discouraged” product need to believe the “encouraged” one has feature parity with zero downsides.

    I guarantee that no one is accidentally using Firefox because they’re unaware of the alternatives.

  • Butterbee (She/Her)
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    241 year ago

    Market share doesn’t equal irrelevance as others have said. I use Librewolf and without Firefox it wouldn’t exist. It likely wouldn’t exist at the quality it is without Mozilla taking Google Cash either. But it’s super important to have an alternative even if most people don’t use it. It DOES provide a limited check and balance against google doing whatever they want with the web because if the right people make the right noise then people will move over to something that’s easy, convenient, and free of whatever pain in the butt google puts in chrome that sends people over the edge. See Linux desktop and Valve for an example of how a software with very few users comparatively can force a larger company to play ball. Remember in Windows 8 when MS basically banned 3rd party software stores on the OS… or tried? And Valve made the “Steam Machine” and SteamOS? Everyone says the steam machines failed but they 100% did everything Valve wanted them to do. It was enough to have MS go back on their walled garden and allow Steam to keep operating as it had been. And now we have the steam deck on top of it.

    So, it’s ok if Firefox has a small market share as long as it remains a worthy competitor.

  • @Floon@lemmy.ml
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    61 year ago

    I wonder if Firefox users are more likely to spoof their user agent setting? Probably not.

    I’ll still use it. Compared to every other browser, it is the least disastrous regarding privacy.

  • @Quexotic@beehaw.org
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    121 year ago

    I will be honest. I didn’t read that article because it’s too click-baity. Using https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/ I see that Firefox is about 3% of 5b users. Not insignificant.

    That 3% is about 150mil users. IMO, less than it should be. Google has great security, but terrible privacy. I switched middle of last year, from brave to FF for reasons I won’t get into here. Suffice it to say, they are numerous.

    It truly is troubling that they don’t have independent funding. I, for one would pay $10/y for this service. Maybe I could donate?

    Anyway, it’s a superior product in many ways.

  • @CaptKoala@lemmy.ml
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    11 year ago

    My government sites don’t work with Firefox (no add-ons), have to use chrome, they recommend and only support chrome.

  • @rwhitisissle@beehaw.org
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    581 year ago

    The day Firefox shutters its doors is the day the internet truly dies. Almost every “alternative” browser is chromium under the hood. Google’s next big plan is basically constructing a walled garden around the internet (at least the HTTP part) via complex DRM. Eventually, if you want to access an actual web page, it’ll have to be via a Chromium browser. Hell, even today a shitload of websites I visit on FF just don’t fucking render correctly and I’ll have to fire up a chromium instance just to access them. That’s only going to get worse with time.

  • flatbield
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    301 year ago

    Firefox is far from irrelevant. Pure stupid click bait. Market share of courses is a sad thing and may lead to irrelevance when most web sites stop supporting. In the late days of Netscape and the early days of Firefox that was the case… lack of website support. I am just starting to see that again.

  • @Midnitte@beehaw.org
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    291 year ago

    Article seems pretty flawed. Relevance is a vague metric, and the author relies pretty heavily on data related to government site visitation, which seems subject to bias toward certain types of users.

    You mean like government (and business) employees that are forced to use some flavor of Internet Explorer Chromium?

    • @sqgl@beehaw.org
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      11 year ago

      Employees? I thought OP was talking about visitors and in that case a government site is as neutral as it gets.

      • @Midnitte@beehaw.org
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        61 year ago

        And a lot of those visitors are people that are forced to use chromium - such as employees that use those governmental services as a part of work. As neutral as it gets, it doesn’t mean it is actually neutral.

        For example, some government websites only work with chromium

  • @Sinfaen@beehaw.org
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    41 year ago

    I didn’t think that the market share was actually changing much? Like it’s low but it’s still used, especially on Linux workstations with nothing else pre-installed